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Rob Cohen may be 53 but he has a youthful pulse on Hollywood. Following
last years unexpected hit The Fast and the Furious, Cohen
is back on Hollywoods A-list as a formidable director who
knows just how to reach todays young audiences. In this exclusive
one-on-one chat with PAUL FISCHER, Cohen talks frankly about his
run-ins with anti-Semitism as a child, and how his unconventional
life paved the way for him to become one of Hollywoods powerful
filmmakers.
Paul Fischer: I want to start off by talking about your ethnic
background. Youre Jewish. Yet you were raised by an African-American,
correct?
Rob Cohen: Yeah.
P.F: How did that influence your desire to become a filmmaker
or did it, in fact, influence that?
R.C: I think that its such a long series of evolutionary
events to the point when you think you come to who you think you
want to be. The tough love of who you call housekeeper and Godmother
and her Baptist spirituality, I think being an outsider, the town
I grew up in, it makes you retreat into your own world of fantasy.
So, then you go to college and then youre going to study.
Then you ask your friend/roommate, who was also an African-American,
well, can you get me something to read while I was laid up sick
for six weeks and he ended up getting me this book of cinematography.
When I got out of the service, I wrote this short script. But theres
not this one, defining moment, its a long strand of events.P.F.:
Being Jewish, and having confronted anti-Semitism, did you ever
rebel against your Jewishness or rediscover in some point in your
life?
R.C: Im totally in reaction to it. Ive never been
comfortable with the Jewish identity. Its been one of those
crosses to bear that I had the surname Cohen which is
a label. You cant hide even if you wanted to, so I dont
practice. Its not anything of interest to me. I dont
want to rediscover it. Im not interested. You know, I
I have taken up Buddhism, not because of the need for religion
ego, which is your biggest enemy. It helps me remember each day
to keep my ego in check.
P.F: Yours can be a very soulless profession. So where do
you find your spirituality?
R.C: Well, I meditate and I basically go through a Buddhist
practice.
P.F: Do you avoid working with people whose first priority
is ego?
R.C: No. P.F: How do you deal with stars who are
full of ego?
R.C: I have a way of reminding them how frail and fragile
their clink is that theyve set themselves up. I would say
to them: I once worked with a guy who was big, just like you,
so now that youve said those things to me, most actors know
intrinsically know that their position in the public eye is fleeting.
P.F: Now at 53, thats an interesting age to be in, in
that you can tap in todays youth in cinema. How easy is it
for you to do that? How easy is it to be hip at 53?
R.C: Well, since I dont try to be hip, thats the
first thing. I dont go out each day. I got things that Im
interested in for now. Theres a synchronicity between the
stuff that Im interested in, I dont calculate. I didnt
believe that a film about illegal street racing was a hip idea.
I didnt try to make a hip movie. I tried to make a genuine
movie, true to the subject matter. The fact that the stylistic
decisions the leaps of faith, the places nowhere went in that genre
before became hip, is something I had nothing to do with other than
stay true to the subject matter.
P.F: Was there ever a need to change with time, to adapt to
what audiences of varying periods are after?
R.C: Yes. Because it was very mysterious to me when I had
success very early in Motown. Then I directed a Small Circle of
Friends which was a film that I really loved. But it didnt
do anything. The critics didnt go: Oh, heres a very
good, new director, they trashed me. So to me, what I feel is,
that I lived a long time learning how to do this. Even someone
like Steven Spielberg, whose talents came instinctively, offered
ideas that sounded completely insane, that then he would pull off,
whether it was in television or in his early work and youd
go, oh, my God, not one of us. Now, a day like today, I really
enjoy talking to you, these other people, having made a film in
record time that Im proud of having a cast around here that
I love and people who are really fun. If Id had this so early,
I dont think I would have appreciated it. I will get the
directors like Michael Bay, a wheel turns, and nobody calls. Youre
not that hot anymore. And all the things you thought were valuable
are gone and I know because the wheel will turn another day and
the wheel will turn again, but when it turns, I will be happy with
ME. P.F: Did you want to do XXX because it instils in you a kind
of childhood element? Is that really what its all about?
R.C: Yeah, when I saw Dr. No and From Russia with Love, I
thought those were the coolest, I mean so amazing, and the fact
that my parents didnt let me see either one of them. I had
to sneak in without a conscious. And Ursula Andress came out of
the water you know, that was the beginning of puberty. And you
say to yourself, God, the kids are going to see one of my films
and for the rest of their lives you remember the summer of Fast
and the Furious. Do you remember where you were when you saw XXX?
Do you remember when Vin Diesel jumped that motorcycle on the tabletop?
Yeah, the coolest. If I could do that for that audience today that
would just make me the happiest guy.
P.F: Youve been quoted as saying that youre very
dismissive of doing a sequel to Fast and the Furious. Originality
is very important to you. If you are doing a sequel to XXX, how
dangerous is that, and how concerned are you that that quote will
come back to haunt you?
R.C: Im not because if I do XXX, itll be a story
that will be as original as the first time around. Im not
doing a retread of this. P.F: What are you going to do now?
Are you going to take a break or are you going to write the next
XXX?
R.C: Well, Im going to work with Rich on the sequel,
but Im looking for a film to do in between. Ive been
talking to Joe Roth about some things.
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